It’s Even Worse Than You Think (Until Now!)

Caroline hosts David Cay Johnston, Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalist, frequent MSNBC contributor, tracking Trump for 29 years, delineating the extraordinary grift; contributing deep delving revelatory narrative to public discourse, emerging into collective now. What we gotta know to have a democracy.

David Cay Johnston is the author of 7 books, his latest is It’s Even Worse Than You Think – What the Trump Administration Is Doing To America. Columnist for The Daily BeastInvestopedia, USA Today,, Tax Analysts and the Rochester Democrat & Chronicle. Distinguished Visiting Lecturer, Syracuse University College of Law and Whitman School of Management (The property, tax and regulatory law of the ancient world). David is the founder and editor-in-chief of the DCR Report (

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  1. Eryn Alloway says:

    Flippable – With control in a majority of states, the GOP has passed laws to suppress the vote and skew district maps. By electing progressives to state government, we can flip the script—and rebuild our democracy.

  2. Great show.

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